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Fidelity-Chastity ordination standard remains in place in PC(USA)
Written by Leslie Scanlon, Outlook national reporter   
Sunday, 24 May 2009 12:05
The Presbyterian Church (U.S.A.) has once again voted to uphold a requirement that those being ordained practice fidelity in marriage or chastity if they’re single — the third time the denomination has voted to retain the “fidelity and chastity” standard since it came into effect in 1997.

On April 25, three presbyteries — Northern Plains, Sierra Blanca,  and Boise became the 86th , 87th , and 88th  presbyteries to vote not to change the standard, meaning that a majority of the denomination’s 173 presbyteries have voted “No” on the proposed amendment to the denomination’s constitution. A fourth presbytery, de Cristo,  voted that weekend to approve Amendment 08-B by a vote of 59 to 48, according to Stated Clerk Steve Bronson. Some presbyteries have yet to vote; under the rules they have until June 28 to do so. As of April 26, the ongoing vote stood at 69 “yes” to 89 “no.”

But the result already had been determined: the “fidelity and chastity” standard will stay.

Despite that, however, this vote has convinced virtually no one that the gay ordination issue is now dead and buried in the PC(USA). Why?

For one reason, the tally was closer this time than ever before. As of late April, 27 of the 127 presbyteries that voted to keep “fidelity and chastity” the last time around (when the vote was taken in 2001 and 2002) this time supported the change. Many presbyteries in the South — for example, four of the five presbyteries in North Carolina — shifted. San Francisco Presbytery and Sierra Blanca Presbytery flipped the other way.

So even though a majority of the 173 presbyteries have voted to retain “fidelity and chastity,” there’s been a visible, almost visceral shift. When all the presbyteries have weighed in, the vote is expected to be the closest ever.

“I think the story of this ratification campaign are those flips,” said Michael Adee, national field organizer for More Light Presbyterians, which wants to remove the restraints on ordaining gays and lesbians. “It’s not a matter of if” there is a change. “It’s when,” Adee pointed out.

Adee is not alone in seeing the shifts as significant. Many evangelicals, whose side prevailed in this campaign, are paying as much attention to the voting pattern as to the final outcome. Despite keeping “fidelity and chastity” intact, theirs does not feel like a celebratory mood.

“It’s a baffling question — how exactly do we define a win?” asked Paul Detterman, executive director of Presbyterians for Renewal.

If the PC(USA) holds on to the “fidelity and chastity” standard this time, “Gee, do you think it might come up again?” Detterman asked, laughing, the answer being obvious. “If the revisionist side were to win on this vote, it’s not going to be a situation where the conservatives sit back and say, ‘Oh, well, darn, the mood of the church has changed, I guess we’re going to have to live with it.’ There isn’t a clear win. The question is how do we help shape a future that holds as much of the denomination together as we can in the mission to which we are called?”

So what does lie ahead?

•           It’s virtually certain that presbyteries will again ask the General Assembly, which meets next in June, 2010, to remove “fidelity and chastity” from the Book of Order, although exactly what the overtures will say remains to be seen. Some say the proposal voted on this time around, the so-called “Amendment B,” may have been appealing because it not only asked that “fidelity and chastity” be deleted, but provided replacement language that those being ordained pledge “to live lives obedient to Jesus Christ, the Head of the Church.” In other words, it didn’t just get rid of the old standard, it offered up something new.

•           Presbyterians for Renewal is preparing to circulate a proposal that would raise the possibility of creating a non-geographic synod — a way to build a bigger comfort zone for evangelicals who want to stay in the PC(USA) but oppose the ordination of gays and lesbians. Detterman said a proposal is being test-driven now and is likely to be released publicly by early June.

•           The next General Assembly will hear reports from a cadre of special committees, including one considering language in the Heidelberg Catechism relating to homosexuality, and another considering issues of civil union and Christian marriage. Their proposals could impact the discussion too.

•           And the churches will continue to watch how the issue of gay marriage plays out in the secular world. Four states — Massachusetts, Connecticut, Iowa, and Vermont — have decided to allow gay marriage. California — on-again, off-again on this one — is considering the issue again. And legislation or court rulings are pending in other states as well. A key point of discussion is how much changing views on homosexuality in the secular culture should or will influence the church, or whether the church should try to guide the culture, and in what ways. Those questions take on new weight at a time when many believe that western Christianity is living through a time of sea change, when the whole relationship of the church and the secular world seems to be in flux.

A decision has been reached in this round of voting in the PC(USA), and the outcome is known. But answers to the bigger question of “what comes next” are anything but settled. Here are some of the nuances of that discussion.

Don’t discount the outcome. Some Presbyterians have turned their scrutiny almost immediately to the details, to analyzing how close the margin was and trying to understand why so many presbyteries flipped. But others say the PC(USA) should not gloss over the significance of the overall vote. For the third time in a row, the denomination has voted to uphold the “fidelity and chastity” standard.

“It has to be read as a positive outcome, that the church has decided to stay in the mainstream of the (Christian) church overall and not join a minority,” said Terry Schlossberg, who led the Presbyterian Coalition’s campaign to retain the current language. “It really is a minority of denominations and churches that have changed their sexual ethic. A win on this – the defeat of Amendment B – will show that the Presbyterian church has decided to stay in the mainstream.”

Here’s another way to put it: how the PC(USA) voted this time is part of a much bigger story of Christian churches struggling to come to terms with homosexuality. The question of gay and lesbian ordination is rocking many denominations — the Episcopalians, Lutherans, and Methodists among them — and this Presbyterian vote also will be scrutinized in that more expansive context.

The low turnout. In some presbyteries, the vote flipped. In others, the margin was closer than it has been in the past. And in many, the turnout was lower; fewer folks showed up to vote.

“One of the most striking things to me about this round of voting is the general lack of interest in the discussion and in the vote itself,” said Michael Walker, theologian-in-residence at Highland Park Church in Dallas and an evangelical leader. “I have not sensed any great degree of urgency or interest in the process this time around.”

Why? Why was the turnout lower and the voting closer this time around?

“We’ve decided there are as least as many reasons as there are presbyteries” for the changes, Schlossberg said.

With widespread cutbacks in the media industry, fewer secular outlets are paying close attention to what’s happening within denominations, so there may be less coverage of the issue in local newspapers, she said. “We know there are churches that are unaware that the vote is happening. We have found that again and again.”

In some places, conservative churches have left the PC(USA) for the Evangelical Presbyterian Church, which could mean fewer conservatives left to vote. Some of those congregations that left were prominent, and played leadership roles in rallying evangelicals during earlier votes on gay ordination.

And some Presbyterians are just tired of talking about gay ordination year after year.

“We think fatigue is a factor, probably of some significance,” Schlossberg said. “People are asking why they have to keep delivering an answer to the same question over and over and over. There is an irritation factor at work.”

Also, some evangelicals may have taken it for granted that their side would prevail. “I don’t think that there has been a great concern on the part of folks who are more conservative that it might actually pass this time around,” Walker said. “So they haven’t felt the need to go the extra mile to make sure that they are present for all the votes and participate in all the discussions.”

Impact of culture. The Presbyterian vote does not take place in a vacuum. Even in the midst of this voting season, two more states — Iowa and Vermont — have taken steps to legalize gay marriage. Some see the closer vote in the PC(USA) as reflecting changes of views in the American culture, with some characterizing that as progress towards equality and fairness, others as religion caving in to the secular culture.

“This shows there is a big shift in a positive direction toward accepting the equality of all people,” said Jack Rogers, a former General Assembly moderator who has spoken at congregations around the country after writing a book advocating that the church open its doors to gay ordination. “It appears the equality side will not prevail this time. But there is such a different atmosphere.”

Some believe that attitudes are changing as gays and lesbians become more accepted – and more visible – in the country generally.

People have responded, said Adee of More Light Presbyterians, to getting to know more gays and lesbians personally, to seeing same-sex couples show up with their kids at church. “Well, that melts hearts,” he said. “In some churches, no one blinks. In other churches, they go, ‘Oh, well, isn’t it nice to have a young family.’ For some churches it isn’t the young family they expected. It’s the family that shows up. … I think it brings out the better angels in all of us, when people begin to relax and say, ‘These are the people God has put in our care.’”

In some places, the debate over gay sexual relationships also ignites discussion of the sexual practices of unmarried heterosexuals, raising questions of whether churches are being consistent.

Day after day, pastors and congregations face questions about sexual ethics — probably most often when heterosexual couples, many of whom are sexually involved or living together, come to the church and ask to be married.

“Churches really just have to decide,” Schlossberg said. “Are they going to just yield to what is the current trend of the culture, or will they try to speak the message of the gospel into it and figure out how they’re going to take their stance? …  Holding the standard is just critical to being able to do that with integrity.”

The close vote this time in the PC(USA) and the discussion it’s sparking about what comes next raises the question of “how the sheep are being tended in the flocks of our denomination,” Schlossberg said. “What message are we proclaiming? What is the teaching that people are getting from the church that gives them an alternative to what they’re living with every day, hearing, reading, being infected by through the culture?”

It won’t end here. Both progressives and evangelicals sense that this vote isn’t the end of the PC(USA)’s debate over homosexuality. More overtures asking for the removal of “fidelity and chastity” seem inevitable. Far from being deflated by the defeat this time, advocates of gay ordination say they’re ever-more convinced that change is just a matter of time.

As Rogers put it: “I don’t have any question that is going to come. We will come to the position of treating all our members equally, and I will be rejoicing in that.”

But those who favor the “fidelity and chastity” standard aren’t giving ground either. Presbyterians for Renewal, for example, is working on a proposal — likely to be made public early this summer — for some sort of an alternative approach that would allow those who favor “fidelity and chastity” to be aligned, possibly in a non-geographic synod, with others who hold similar views.

“Folks are looking at the bigger picture,” Walker said. Regardless of how this vote turned out, he said, many don’t believe “it’s going to resolve the deeper disagreements that are prevalent in the PC(USA).”

Voting on this issue time after time “is no longer a viable way to approach this conversation,” Detterman said.

The underlying question — not resolved yet — is “What does it mean that God has put us together in this time and this place to do ministry together, when we clearly are holding differing views on such an important issue in the culture?”
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Response from David Wiley, June 03, 2009
Coshocton Ohio
I am not at all convinced regarding popular premise that some folks are "gay" who represent a different, definable class of Christians. I do not believe it is proper to label people "gay" or "straight" and relate to them differently because of these labels. These labels are divisive and not at all helpful to our efforts as Christians as we seek to be one body in Christ. There is simply no such category as a "gay person" or a "straight person" as derived from Christ's teachings. I will not make distinctions that Christ does not ask me to make. Christ provides enough definition for us all about how to relate to His family. As we think about discipleship and church discipline, let us not start justifying our behavior because it is easy, pleasurable, natural, or even personally fulfilling. Let us examine our conduct to see if it consistent with what God has revealed as righteous and loving behavior toward one another. It really is that simple.

Let us love one another and avoid types of behavior that abuse others for our own selfish pleasures. Everyone should benefit and grow in righteousness as a result of our behavior toward them. We are to love one another starting with how God defines love, not starting first with on our personal passions and natural appetites and justifying what we want. If we do these things we will do well.
Response from Virginia Parrish, May 28, 2009
Atlanta, Georgia
In response to your last line I agree that God has indeed put us together (at least for the time being) to do ministry in this time and place. The problem is that our differences are based on OUR views and not on God's Word which clearly condemns homosexuality. God loves the sinner, but God has also been very clear about its being unacceptable. Indeed the Church Universal has upheld GOD'S VIEW for over 2,000 years. When will the PCUSA recognize this truth? Before it is too late? I sincerely hope so.
Response from Langdon Hubbard, May 27, 2009
Amherst, NY
While I appreciate David McCann's call for the church to invest in evangelism in the previous response, I believe the time, energy, effort, and money spent on the issue of sexual orientation is evangelism. Our church for too long has closed the door to the full inclusion of all of God's children. And that is the opposite of evangelism. Evangelism is good news, that God's love through Christ is intended for all. I'm glad we're taking this issue seriously enough to work toward the day when the Presbyterian Church ordains and marries gay people. This will not be the end of the church, but it's new beginning. I have no doubt that those who work for the full inclusion of gay people in the church are doing God's will. As a Bible-believing, evangelical Christian I have changed my mind on this issue, primarily on the basis of biblical study. I do not believe that 6 misunderstood and prejudicially interpreted Bible verses make a case against gays. It is only a matter of time before the church gets this right, and that time is coming. Thanks be to God!
Response from David Wiley, May 27, 2009
Coshocton, Ohio
When does NO mean NO???? Thirty years of 'asked and answered' & almost 2000 years of perfect consistency on the issue.

Apparently what the proponents of loose sexual behavior want is to keep brining this sad issue up time and time again until folks get so sick of the conversation that they head for another denomination where real issues are given air time and truth is important to the process. Many fine souls have left already for greener pastures and free lands. Eventually, the residue will be ordaining sexual deviants of every color and strip because they will have the majority in a dying denomination. This will be their doom as everyone gets their just desserts.
Response from David McCann, May 26, 2009
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If over the last thirty years Presbyterians had put as much time, energy, effort, and money into evangelism instead of sexual orientation, we would be a growing denomination, not declining and facing extinction. How can we call ourselves Christians, when we spend so much time arguing over sexuality, while millions of people are facing a Christless eternity? Didn't Jesus command us to "Go therefore and MAKE disciples of ALL NATIONS, bpatizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, anc TEACHING them to OBEY everything that I have commanded you."? Yet we consistently ignore Christ's command. We continue to drift away from the very purpose for which the church was created by God. May God have mercy on our souls!

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